Message posted by Roger M. on October 09, 2019 at 12:31:12 PST:

At the end of his interview, Fraser clarifies that he believes that his first view of the tic tac when it was of the tic tac COMING OUT OF the cross shaped "thing" below the surface of the water. He said he didn't see that happen specifically, but his impression was that's what he was seeing.
Also published just today by Tyler over at The Drive:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30256/scientist-behind-the-navys-ufo-patents-has-now-filed-one-for-a-compact-fusion-reactor

In Reply to: Re: Cdr David Fravor USN on his "tic-tac" encounter posted by greatguess on October 08, 2019 at 18:50:20 PST:

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